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		<title>By: Nolawi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nolawi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks paul, really something to think about....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks paul, really something to think about&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Montoya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already do this to a small extent with my sites, where the front page uses a completely different layout than the internal pages. 

But what you are talking about is not hard at all to do with a good CMS. I&#039;ll use Wordpress as an example (though I have a feeling it can&#039;t quite pull it off). You would have to structure your template in a way that you have a sort of &quot;canvas&quot; section where individual entries go. Then you can define a specific id for the container of this section and attach a specific stylesheet to it (both using Custom Fields). All of the custom styles for this entry would apply to that id to make the canvas section unique and it would just be a matter of having your template check those custom fields and put the stylesheet in the header and the custom id on the container. 

It would be more work but I can totally agree with Jeff that for sites like a high-profile newspaper, putting this extra work in for the Sunday feature is worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already do this to a small extent with my sites, where the front page uses a completely different layout than the internal pages. </p>
<p>But what you are talking about is not hard at all to do with a good CMS. I&#8217;ll use Wordpress as an example (though I have a feeling it can&#8217;t quite pull it off). You would have to structure your template in a way that you have a sort of &#8220;canvas&#8221; section where individual entries go. Then you can define a specific id for the container of this section and attach a specific stylesheet to it (both using Custom Fields). All of the custom styles for this entry would apply to that id to make the canvas section unique and it would just be a matter of having your template check those custom fields and put the stylesheet in the header and the custom id on the container. </p>
<p>It would be more work but I can totally agree with Jeff that for sites like a high-profile newspaper, putting this extra work in for the Sunday feature is worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: What Is Your Site&#8217;s Personality? &#187; Wisdump</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/building-systems-that-let-me-design-every-page/comment-page-1/#comment-6519</link>
		<dc:creator>What Is Your Site&#8217;s Personality? &#187; Wisdump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I used Apple in a post yesterday and I get to use them again today. Don&#8217;t you think their site matches their personality? Clean design. Easy to use. Fun. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I used Apple in a post yesterday and I get to use them again today. Don&#8217;t you think their site matches their personality? Clean design. Easy to use. Fun. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My Top 10 Web Sites &#187; Late breaking news</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/building-systems-that-let-me-design-every-page/comment-page-1/#comment-6518</link>
		<dc:creator>My Top 10 Web Sites &#187; Late breaking news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Building systems that let me &lt;b&gt;design&lt;/b&gt; every page. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Building systems that let me &lt;b&gt;design&lt;/b&gt; every page. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know of a &quot;how to&quot; (or willing to make one) for doing something like this with WordPress? It&#039;s a great concept (I love Joomla&#039;s site) but it&#039;s a bit beyond me at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know of a &#8220;how to&#8221; (or willing to make one) for doing something like this with WordPress? It&#8217;s a great concept (I love Joomla&#8217;s site) but it&#8217;s a bit beyond me at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I know for WordPress and MovableType you can definitely extend the individual post pages so if you want to change the layout you definitely have the power to do so. And if no matter what if your system uses a dynamic language (PHP) the ability to manipulate a template is always there.

The whole 9rules site essentially runs off of 4 main files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I know for WordPress and MovableType you can definitely extend the individual post pages so if you want to change the layout you definitely have the power to do so. And if no matter what if your system uses a dynamic language (PHP) the ability to manipulate a template is always there.</p>
<p>The whole 9rules site essentially runs off of 4 main files.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Hollis</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Hollis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hand-crafting pages wouldn&#039;t be too hard for most blogs, however we have to have tools that support it. The majority of content management systems are designed for &quot;efficiency,&quot; not flexibility.

Granted, most blogs may not be deep enough to warrant hand-crafting, however that seems to be more a function of how we generally organize blogs (chronologically). We can gain significantly more depth if we organize content in a way that lets both lets the content speak and embraces the hypertextual medium (via complex interlinking). Again, we have to have tools that support and encourage methods of organization beyond chronological lists.

For larger sites using traditional content management schemes, I believe hand-crafting individual pages would be more worthwhile than the typical blog simply because each page will have a longer lifespan. In any case, I think we often treat our content and design as if it were disposable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hand-crafting pages wouldn&#8217;t be too hard for most blogs, however we have to have tools that support it. The majority of content management systems are designed for &#8220;efficiency,&#8221; not flexibility.</p>
<p>Granted, most blogs may not be deep enough to warrant hand-crafting, however that seems to be more a function of how we generally organize blogs (chronologically). We can gain significantly more depth if we organize content in a way that lets both lets the content speak and embraces the hypertextual medium (via complex interlinking). Again, we have to have tools that support and encourage methods of organization beyond chronological lists.</p>
<p>For larger sites using traditional content management schemes, I believe hand-crafting individual pages would be more worthwhile than the typical blog simply because each page will have a longer lifespan. In any case, I think we often treat our content and design as if it were disposable.</p>
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		<title>By: theSandbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>theSandbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Templates and pages...&lt;/strong&gt;

Wisdump raises a very good point in their post Building systems that let me design every page:  most websites today use templates and as a result most of the pages in the site look very much the same. This is not necessarily bad, but as they point out ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Templates and pages&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Wisdump raises a very good point in their post Building systems that let me design every page:  most websites today use templates and as a result most of the pages in the site look very much the same. This is not necessarily bad, but as they point out &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Templates and pages &#171; theSandbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Templates and pages &#171; theSandbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wisdump raises a very good point in their post Building systems that let me design every page: most websites today use templates and as a result most of the pages in the site look very much the same. This is not necessarily bad, but as they point out sometimes some changes in design make the site much more attractive while keeping it usable and coherent. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wisdump raises a very good point in their post Building systems that let me design every page: most websites today use templates and as a result most of the pages in the site look very much the same. This is not necessarily bad, but as they point out sometimes some changes in design make the site much more attractive while keeping it usable and coherent. [...]</p>
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