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	<title>Comments on: Designers: How do you value your name in the footer?</title>
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		<title>By: Justin D</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-60242</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I see buying a theme more like buying art, but instead of something that sits on your wall, it rearranges your whole house.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Let&#039;s discuss.

1) Web designers are artisans, not artists. Web design should solve problems and tell stories, not be something made to hang on museum walls. Usability and Interaction Design are not fine arts, they&#039;re crafts and the products we make are meant to be used, interacted with. That&#039;s like asking a car company not to put their logo on the rear or clothing designers to leave off their tags.

2) Let&#039;s be honest. If there is fine art on the web, it probably isn&#039;t a Wordpress theme design. This IS NOT meant as a diss to WP theme designers (a group that I am a proud member of) but rather that, of all the web sites developed, the very concept of a blog template--a style wrapper for the content--is the definition of interaction design, NOT fine art design.

In summary, give designers credit where credit is due. thank you.</description>
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<p>I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Let&#8217;s discuss.</p>
<p>1) Web designers are artisans, not artists. Web design should solve problems and tell stories, not be something made to hang on museum walls. Usability and Interaction Design are not fine arts, they&#8217;re crafts and the products we make are meant to be used, interacted with. That&#8217;s like asking a car company not to put their logo on the rear or clothing designers to leave off their tags.</p>
<p>2) Let&#8217;s be honest. If there is fine art on the web, it probably isn&#8217;t a WordPress theme design. This IS NOT meant as a diss to WP theme designers (a group that I am a proud member of) but rather that, of all the web sites developed, the very concept of a blog template&#8211;a style wrapper for the content&#8211;is the definition of interaction design, NOT fine art design.</p>
<p>In summary, give designers credit where credit is due. thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Thord Daniel Hedengren</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55939</link>
		<dc:creator>Thord Daniel Hedengren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the big deal with that link? Nofollow it then. I deserver full credit as a designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the big deal with that link? Nofollow it then. I deserver full credit as a designer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Budd</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55931</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Budd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current proposal is for the the theme’s name and author’s name to be included in the footer, but not linked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current proposal is for the the theme’s name and author’s name to be included in the footer, but not linked.</p>
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		<title>By: Thord Daniel Hedengren</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55746</link>
		<dc:creator>Thord Daniel Hedengren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I see buying a theme more like buying art, but instead of something that sits on your wall, it rearranges your whole house.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can understand that point of view, Matt. However, you hardly erase or cover the artist&#039;s name on a painting, right?

Designer credit is crucial. If you do that, I&#039;m game.</description>
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<p>I can understand that point of view, Matt. However, you hardly erase or cover the artist&#8217;s name on a painting, right?</p>
<p>Designer credit is crucial. If you do that, I&#8217;m game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard McGarry</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55732</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard McGarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, having a designer link at the bottom of the page is crucial for me and most designers. Even on non-WordPress work, I&#039;ll agree in advance with the client to link back to my site.

Is this the war on sponsored links getting out of hand? It certainly seems that way.

The previous system was that themes were free and designers could garner recognition via that link, precisely as Thord has said above. I&#039;d be inclined to take my chances offering the theme free of charge from my own website, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, having a designer link at the bottom of the page is crucial for me and most designers. Even on non-WordPress work, I&#8217;ll agree in advance with the client to link back to my site.</p>
<p>Is this the war on sponsored links getting out of hand? It certainly seems that way.</p>
<p>The previous system was that themes were free and designers could garner recognition via that link, precisely as Thord has said above. I&#8217;d be inclined to take my chances offering the theme free of charge from my own website, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55665</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum: I see buying a theme more like buying art, but instead of something that sits on your wall, it rearranges your whole house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: I see buying a theme more like buying art, but instead of something that sits on your wall, it rearranges your whole house.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything you see in the program thus far was developed in coordination with some of the highest quality designers around, including some surprise ones that aren&#039;t public yet. It&#039;s totally in our interest to promote these guys as then more of their themes will sell, so not only should you get credit, but we&#039;ll do our best to make you a star. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything you see in the program thus far was developed in coordination with some of the highest quality designers around, including some surprise ones that aren&#8217;t public yet. It&#8217;s totally in our interest to promote these guys as then more of their themes will sell, so not only should you get credit, but we&#8217;ll do our best to make you a star. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Randa Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randa Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally bogus.  Matt is certainly not making it attractive to participate in his little premium theme game.  50% is outrageous, but taking the designer&#039;s name out the footer is even worse.  What he&#039;s going to get is sub-par designers submitting themes.  I sincerely hope that none of the cream of the WP theme designer crop will participate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally bogus.  Matt is certainly not making it attractive to participate in his little premium theme game.  50% is outrageous, but taking the designer&#8217;s name out the footer is even worse.  What he&#8217;s going to get is sub-par designers submitting themes.  I sincerely hope that none of the cream of the WP theme designer crop will participate.</p>
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		<title>By: wp-fun &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress.com Theme Marketplace</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55493</link>
		<dc:creator>wp-fun &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress.com Theme Marketplace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No back links. I don&#8217;t much care for SEO, but a bit of branding doesn&#8217;t seem unreasonable. I&#8217;m not sure if it is the link that is the problem or the branding. If minor branding, albeit unlinked, is allowed then perhaps it isn&#8217;t such an issue. This is discussed more at Wisdump: How much is it worth to have your name in the footer? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No back links. I don&#8217;t much care for SEO, but a bit of branding doesn&#8217;t seem unreasonable. I&#8217;m not sure if it is the link that is the problem or the branding. If minor branding, albeit unlinked, is allowed then perhaps it isn&#8217;t such an issue. This is discussed more at Wisdump: How much is it worth to have your name in the footer? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Devlounge &#124; The WordPress.com Theme Marketplace</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/designers-how-do-you-value-your-name-in-the-footer/comment-page-1/#comment-55319</link>
		<dc:creator>Devlounge &#124; The WordPress.com Theme Marketplace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the theme&#8217;s footer, which sucks. I wrote an extensive post on this over at Wisdump, and followed it up with a post on design credits, so pop over if you&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the theme&#8217;s footer, which sucks. I wrote an extensive post on this over at Wisdump, and followed it up with a post on design credits, so pop over if you&#8217;re [...]</p>
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