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	<title>Comments on: Do You Design For Non-Desktops/Laptops?</title>
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		<title>By: Montoya</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/do-you-design-for-non-desktopslaptops/comment-page-1/#comment-7149</link>
		<dc:creator>Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can argue for liquid designs, but in many cases if you have a 468Ã—60 graphic ad on your site, it is not going to resize and therefore liquid design does not offer any help.&quot;

Scrivs, have you used a mobile device to browse the web? They DO resize images for smaller display... you can see this with IE mobile and Opera mini. Liquid design IS the way to design for mobile; when it comes to mobile devices, you want to make everything as scalable as possible. Keep everything in one column, make it liquid, and assume the browser will handle the image sizing.

&quot;Maybe Iâ€™m out of touch here&quot;

It happens ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can argue for liquid designs, but in many cases if you have a 468Ã—60 graphic ad on your site, it is not going to resize and therefore liquid design does not offer any help.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scrivs, have you used a mobile device to browse the web? They DO resize images for smaller display&#8230; you can see this with IE mobile and Opera mini. Liquid design IS the way to design for mobile; when it comes to mobile devices, you want to make everything as scalable as possible. Keep everything in one column, make it liquid, and assume the browser will handle the image sizing.</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe Iâ€™m out of touch here&#8221;</p>
<p>It happens ;)</p>
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		<title>By: There is no default screen resolution anymore &#171; User Experience Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>There is no default screen resolution anymore &#171; User Experience Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: engtech</title>
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		<dc:creator>engtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Resolution isn&#039;t the only problem. It&#039;s amazing how colour can look different on different displays.

You could whip up a stylesheet for mobile devices pretty fast though. Lose the sidebar and chop any overrun on images or have no images.

But I think it makes more sense to use RSS for mobile devices instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resolution isn&#8217;t the only problem. It&#8217;s amazing how colour can look different on different displays.</p>
<p>You could whip up a stylesheet for mobile devices pretty fast though. Lose the sidebar and chop any overrun on images or have no images.</p>
<p>But I think it makes more sense to use RSS for mobile devices instead.</p>
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		<title>By: WordPress for Mobile Users by Vernon Kesner</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordPress for Mobile Users by Vernon Kesner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over a Wisdump, Scrivs has posted an article in reference to designing for browsers outside of a desktop/laptop environmentj. A few of the comments mention something in regards to developing a design of their WordPress blog for mobile users. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Frank 'viperteq' Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank 'viperteq' Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 

You bringing this topic out today is really interesting. I&#039;m currently in the process of getting my site/blog back up and running and that included a fresh new design for Wordpress. In the middle of the whole thing I started debating with myself on whether or not I should design a mobile version of the site. 

Problem is that most of the functionality of 7andacrescent.com is built on top of Wordpress and of course, there is no mobile version of the Wordpress software. So now we not only have display issues as far as a mobile version of a website is concerned, but we also have to deal with site functionality. and I mean this in terms of devices that still use a WAP-based web browser (remember, not everyone can afford a Treo, Motorola Q, Samsung Blackjack, Blackberry Pearl, Apple iPhone). And even for those devices that do support full HTML rendering, will websites built around the functionality of Wordpress or Flash or Rails still deliver the same seamless experience that Desktop versions provide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, </p>
<p>You bringing this topic out today is really interesting. I&#8217;m currently in the process of getting my site/blog back up and running and that included a fresh new design for Wordpress. In the middle of the whole thing I started debating with myself on whether or not I should design a mobile version of the site. </p>
<p>Problem is that most of the functionality of 7andacrescent.com is built on top of Wordpress and of course, there is no mobile version of the Wordpress software. So now we not only have display issues as far as a mobile version of a website is concerned, but we also have to deal with site functionality. and I mean this in terms of devices that still use a WAP-based web browser (remember, not everyone can afford a Treo, Motorola Q, Samsung Blackjack, Blackberry Pearl, Apple iPhone). And even for those devices that do support full HTML rendering, will websites built around the functionality of Wordpress or Flash or Rails still deliver the same seamless experience that Desktop versions provide?</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are almost at the point where we need to implement something like WaSP, and pressure mobile device makers to start supporting mobile CSS better.

It&#039;ll be interesting to see if Apple&#039;s new phone supports the mobile type.

Outside of that, perhaps some sort of screen-zooming technology needs to be implemented by mobile browsers. I think Apple&#039;s new phone does something like that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are almost at the point where we need to implement something like WaSP, and pressure mobile device makers to start supporting mobile CSS better.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if Apple&#8217;s new phone supports the mobile type.</p>
<p>Outside of that, perhaps some sort of screen-zooming technology needs to be implemented by mobile browsers. I think Apple&#8217;s new phone does something like that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I was surprised how many companies &quot;get it&quot; and have mobile pages. Even Colorado&#039;s Dept of Transportation does. It&#039;s refreshing coming to a page with maybe 5 links to the relevant sections of a website. I don&#039;t have to scroll endlessly, it fits, it&#039;s great. 

I&#039;ve also noticed some Wordpress themes work well for mobile users. Links at the top are great. Header images as DIV backgrounds means no excessive images loaded. It&#039;d be nice to have an online app to see what a website looks on a Blackberry, for example. With new devices, like iPhone, we&#039;ll probably see a big shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I was surprised how many companies &#8220;get it&#8221; and have mobile pages. Even Colorado&#8217;s Dept of Transportation does. It&#8217;s refreshing coming to a page with maybe 5 links to the relevant sections of a website. I don&#8217;t have to scroll endlessly, it fits, it&#8217;s great. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed some Wordpress themes work well for mobile users. Links at the top are great. Header images as DIV backgrounds means no excessive images loaded. It&#8217;d be nice to have an online app to see what a website looks on a Blackberry, for example. With new devices, like iPhone, we&#8217;ll probably see a big shift.</p>
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