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		<title>By: Mark Boulton</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Boulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 09:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, overdesigning. When I was in university, my (book designer) lecturer instilled perhaps the most useful quote, something which I keep in my head whenever I design something.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Don&#039;t let the design get in the way. If you notice it, you&#039;ve gone too far. Don&#039;t let the type get in the way of the words.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, overdesigning. When I was in university, my (book designer) lecturer instilled perhaps the most useful quote, something which I keep in my head whenever I design something.</p>
<blockquote><p>Don&#8217;t let the design get in the way. If you notice it, you&#8217;ve gone too far. Don&#8217;t let the type get in the way of the words.</p></blockquote>
<p>Genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Hambleton</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2027</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Hambleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so! I&#039;m reading more about what the website should acheive and trying to &#039;pull&#039; people into the site.

I&#039;ve lost the page I read this on now :(

I guess if you want to show off your creative graphic design side then an &#039;overstyled&#039; site would be an advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so! I&#8217;m reading more about what the website should acheive and trying to &#8216;pull&#8217; people into the site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lost the page I read this on now :(</p>
<p>I guess if you want to show off your creative graphic design side then an &#8216;overstyled&#8217; site would be an advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2026</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I&#039;m crap at graphic design but maybe this is a blessing as it forces me to focus on the message and the layout...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Quite often these conversations make the point that sites like Google are great because the are free from the evils of &quot;design&quot;. But what most people fail to realize is that the success of Google has everything to do with design. It was &lt;em&gt;designed&lt;/em&gt; to be what it is: a simple functional site. 
I think this topic has much more to do with &lt;strong&gt;decoration&lt;/strong&gt; than design. Being &quot;crap at design&quot; isn&#039;t a blessing, it just means you&#039;re probably good at something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m crap at graphic design but maybe this is a blessing as it forces me to focus on the message and the layout&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite often these conversations make the point that sites like Google are great because the are free from the evils of &#8220;design&#8221;. But what most people fail to realize is that the success of Google has everything to do with design. It was <em>designed</em> to be what it is: a simple functional site.<br />
I think this topic has much more to do with <strong>decoration</strong> than design. Being &#8220;crap at design&#8221; isn&#8217;t a blessing, it just means you&#8217;re probably good at something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2025</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.  It is unfortunate that more people don&#039;t realize when they are over-designing things.  An extra drop shadow here, some texture there, a little bit of wicked worn here.

Of course, there&#039;s also those morons that under-design as well. ;)

Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  It is unfortunate that more people don&#8217;t realize when they are over-designing things.  An extra drop shadow here, some texture there, a little bit of wicked worn here.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s also those morons that under-design as well. ;)</p>
<p>Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great philosophical post there!  I really enjoyed it.  I think it ties into being a perfectionist.  This is a mimmick of the same problem I am facing as a designer.  

I have almost never until my most recent designs been satisfied with my creations.  I would create a site and always feel something is missing.  

Now I ddesign with a philosophy that whatever I put up I can always improve later.  That way I am not spending months and months on one design trying to make it &quot;perfect&quot; and eventually hating it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great philosophical post there!  I really enjoyed it.  I think it ties into being a perfectionist.  This is a mimmick of the same problem I am facing as a designer.  </p>
<p>I have almost never until my most recent designs been satisfied with my creations.  I would create a site and always feel something is missing.  </p>
<p>Now I ddesign with a philosophy that whatever I put up I can always improve later.  That way I am not spending months and months on one design trying to make it &#8220;perfect&#8221; and eventually hating it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think this at the time when you originally wrote this post some time ago, but right now, at this moment I really think simpleydone is by far your best designed &quot;non-design&quot; (to use your words) site you&#039;ve got going. 

All the other sites that are attributed to you - whether designed by you or BL - I feel is overdesigned.

Even this site, as minimal as it is, is overdesigned in my opinion.

Simpleydone&#039;s design, layout, and tone captures &quot;you&quot; and seems to be the most honest to representing you.

Again, just my perception of reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think this at the time when you originally wrote this post some time ago, but right now, at this moment I really think simpleydone is by far your best designed &#8220;non-design&#8221; (to use your words) site you&#8217;ve got going. </p>
<p>All the other sites that are attributed to you &#8211; whether designed by you or BL &#8211; I feel is overdesigned.</p>
<p>Even this site, as minimal as it is, is overdesigned in my opinion.</p>
<p>Simpleydone&#8217;s design, layout, and tone captures &#8220;you&#8221; and seems to be the most honest to representing you.</p>
<p>Again, just my perception of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Overdesigning something involves added more when less is needed.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
No question. It all comes back to the first step in the design process: identify the problem that is to be solved. Sometimes, a logo and some text is all that is needed to create a a &quot;great site&quot;.
In the context of web design, the goal of wanting to be a &quot;great site&quot; might be to create something that will be a community-oriented blog, like Metafilter. The text-and-logo format seems to solve the problem of designing a reading/commenting-intensive site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Overdesigning something involves added more when less is needed.&#8221;</em><br />
No question. It all comes back to the first step in the design process: identify the problem that is to be solved. Sometimes, a logo and some text is all that is needed to create a a &#8220;great site&#8221;.<br />
In the context of web design, the goal of wanting to be a &#8220;great site&#8221; might be to create something that will be a community-oriented blog, like Metafilter. The text-and-logo format seems to solve the problem of designing a reading/commenting-intensive site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse J. Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2021</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse J. Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, what I don&#039;t like about the new ALA is that it DOES look overdesigned.

It seems like they tried too hard for it to look really cool and nice and, honestly, I&#039;m far less interested in the site now then I was before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, what I don&#8217;t like about the new ALA is that it DOES look overdesigned.</p>
<p>It seems like they tried too hard for it to look really cool and nice and, honestly, I&#8217;m far less interested in the site now then I was before.</p>
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		<title>By: Yannick</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>Yannick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Then it hit me. I was overdesigning. I was trying to go beyond my means.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So this is what I have been doing wrong all this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Then it hit me. I was overdesigning. I was trying to go beyond my means.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So this is what I have been doing wrong all this time.</p>
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		<title>By: peroty</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/design/overdesign/comment-page-1/#comment-2019</link>
		<dc:creator>peroty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant point. I think you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head in terms of my design and redesign problems. Well, that and I can never get finished with something before I decide it&#039;s crap and I have to start all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant point. I think you&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head in terms of my design and redesign problems. Well, that and I can never get finished with something before I decide it&#8217;s crap and I have to start all over again.</p>
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