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	<title>Comments on: Breaking news: HTML5 will be ready by the year 2022</title>
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		<title>By: Eduardo Garcia</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/web-programming/breaking-news-html5-will-be-ready-by-the-year-2022/comment-page-1/#comment-231933</link>
		<dc:creator>Eduardo Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well at least this breaks the html 5 vs xhtml 2 war.  i had trouble choosing over which version i was going to work over (i like to be formal). at least my mind can be left in peace, and write html pages in xhtml 2.0. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well at least this breaks the html 5 vs xhtml 2 war.  i had trouble choosing over which version i was going to work over (i like to be formal). at least my mind can be left in peace, and write html pages in xhtml 2.0. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Really? Everything I Know About CSS Is Wrong? &#124; Wisdump</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/web-programming/breaking-news-html5-will-be-ready-by-the-year-2022/comment-page-1/#comment-231560</link>
		<dc:creator>Really? Everything I Know About CSS Is Wrong? &#124; Wisdump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And what about next-generation HTML5, which will have new structural tags like &lt;header&gt;, &lt;section&gt;, &lt;article&gt;, &lt;footer&gt;? Can one not feel guilty using all those &lt;div&gt;s in the midst of these elegant new tags? Perhaps that&#8217;s another debate for another day&#8212;in 2022. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And what about next-generation HTML5, which will have new structural tags like &lt;header&gt;, &lt;section&gt;, &lt;article&gt;, &lt;footer&gt;? Can one not feel guilty using all those &lt;div&gt;s in the midst of these elegant new tags? Perhaps that&#8217;s another debate for another day&#8212;in 2022. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: suraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>suraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thisis really a breking news... broke everything.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thisis really a breking news&#8230; broke everything&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: suraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>suraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is bullshit...what these guys are doing then..i think i will require html 10, 12, 15 by the time..it should not take that long..wasting time...i cant simply believe this..I will have my own language ready to develope a website by then..absolutely...this is a joke already...i will not be able sleep tonight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is bullshit&#8230;what these guys are doing then..i think i will require html 10, 12, 15 by the time..it should not take that long..wasting time&#8230;i cant simply believe this..I will have my own language ready to develope a website by then..absolutely&#8230;this is a joke already&#8230;i will not be able sleep tonight</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster Libre &#124; Las cosas de palacio van despacio, HTML 5 para 2022</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webmaster Libre &#124; Las cosas de palacio van despacio, HTML 5 para 2022</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía Wisdump [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lars Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad:

It is exactly the other way around. HTML 4 was underdefined and left the field open for proprietary and inconsistent implementations. That is one of the things that HTML 5 will correct. And also on of the reasons why it will take a while until:

- There exists two browsers that nails every little detail and nuance of the spec.
- There exists a test suite that covers every little detail and nuance.

These are the requirements for a &quot;Recommendation&quot;.

That is: It will take until perhaps 2022 until HTML 5 is in such a state that we can say all work ON the standard is complete. But you can begin working WITH stuff from the standard today and what we are seeing Mozilla, Opera and the Webkit guys doing is implementing stuff WHILE talking to each other, in order to make it non-proprietary.

Look at Mozilla&#039;s and Webkit&#039;s Bugzilla, the mailing lists, WHATWG IRC, etc. We are not seing fragmentation coming from todays rendering engine developers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad:</p>
<p>It is exactly the other way around. HTML 4 was underdefined and left the field open for proprietary and inconsistent implementations. That is one of the things that HTML 5 will correct. And also on of the reasons why it will take a while until:</p>
<p>- There exists two browsers that nails every little detail and nuance of the spec.<br />
- There exists a test suite that covers every little detail and nuance.</p>
<p>These are the requirements for a &#8220;Recommendation&#8221;.</p>
<p>That is: It will take until perhaps 2022 until HTML 5 is in such a state that we can say all work ON the standard is complete. But you can begin working WITH stuff from the standard today and what we are seeing Mozilla, Opera and the Webkit guys doing is implementing stuff WHILE talking to each other, in order to make it non-proprietary.</p>
<p>Look at Mozilla&#8217;s and Webkit&#8217;s Bugzilla, the mailing lists, WHATWG IRC, etc. We are not seing fragmentation coming from todays rendering engine developers!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it could be ready for browser vendors to seriously start using by 2009 -&gt; &quot;Last Call Working Draft in October 2009&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it could be ready for browser vendors to seriously start using by 2009 -&gt; &#8220;Last Call Working Draft in October 2009&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Blogging.com - Personal Blog Tips And Blog Help</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Blogging.com - Personal Blog Tips And Blog Help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it ain&#039;t broke, why fix it?

HTML is the reason why I&#039;m writing this comment on your blog..

Your design uses HTML to put classes and elements from CSS documents..

What possibly could they do next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it ain&#8217;t broke, why fix it?</p>
<p>HTML is the reason why I&#8217;m writing this comment on your blog..</p>
<p>Your design uses HTML to put classes and elements from CSS documents..</p>
<p>What possibly could they do next?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh* HTML5 will be ready by 2012, it will not be entirely complete including test suites until 2022. Jeff Croft also points out that implementation of HTML5 can start prior to 2012, in fact this is already happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh* HTML5 will be ready by 2012, it will not be entirely complete including test suites until 2022. Jeff Croft also points out that implementation of HTML5 can start prior to 2012, in fact this is already happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  It seems that an ad-hoc HTML 4.1 could be hacked in a couple months, with what HTML 5 looks like now.  Get buy-in from Mozilla and Opera, run it by Microsoft, and proceed.  Validate to 4.01 Transitional.  Surely someone can validate to an interim agreement (4.1) in a week or three.

Otherwise we run the risk of MS running off with proprietary interpretations, Mozilla running off to best understanding of HTML5, and Opera and others floating between 4.01 and 5 - and web sites posting &#039;Best viewed with my brother-in-law&#039;s browser running on Windows 3.1 with 1.5 gb ram and 40 meg free on the second hard drive.  On Mondays.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  It seems that an ad-hoc HTML 4.1 could be hacked in a couple months, with what HTML 5 looks like now.  Get buy-in from Mozilla and Opera, run it by Microsoft, and proceed.  Validate to 4.01 Transitional.  Surely someone can validate to an interim agreement (4.1) in a week or three.</p>
<p>Otherwise we run the risk of MS running off with proprietary interpretations, Mozilla running off to best understanding of HTML5, and Opera and others floating between 4.01 and 5 &#8211; and web sites posting &#8216;Best viewed with my brother-in-law&#8217;s browser running on Windows 3.1 with 1.5 gb ram and 40 meg free on the second hard drive.  On Mondays.&#8217;</p>
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