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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3075</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you compete you compete. The best product will win out in the end and yes you get to change the banners as this is also a case study for everyone involved. 

I will be sending out reports and stay in constant communication with each sponsor as to what ads are working and in which areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you compete you compete. The best product will win out in the end and yes you get to change the banners as this is also a case study for everyone involved. </p>
<p>I will be sending out reports and stay in constant communication with each sponsor as to what ads are working and in which areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 04:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so that boils down to $6.67 cpm if you only hit 150k/traffic a month. (excuse my math if i&#039;m wrong, i am tired.) It goes down to $5/cpm if you hit 200k. This becomes a really good deal if you hit your million page mark.

so what if my products compete with one of your existing advertisers then?  Also, do we get the option to modify our banners throughout the course of the year? So they don&#039;t get stale?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so that boils down to $6.67 cpm if you only hit 150k/traffic a month. (excuse my math if i&#8217;m wrong, i am tired.) It goes down to $5/cpm if you hit 200k. This becomes a really good deal if you hit your million page mark.</p>
<p>so what if my products compete with one of your existing advertisers then?  Also, do we get the option to modify our banners throughout the course of the year? So they don&#8217;t get stale?</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3073</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, nah I&#039;m good with my Dual G5 + 30&quot; LCD and iBook. Nice thinking though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, nah I&#8217;m good with my Dual G5 + 30&#8243; LCD and iBook. Nice thinking though.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  Posted the day after a certain keynote with a series of product announcements.  Wonder where the money&#039;s going... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Posted the day after a certain keynote with a series of product announcements.  Wonder where the money&#8217;s going&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: Haha, I know it&#039;s a business thing. As for design, I would have to talk to Rundle, but we could probably throw design in for a very nominal fee. Since I wouldn&#039;t be doing the designs it&#039;s hard for me to say yes or no, so let me get a response from him.

And you are right, ugly ads are so not in for the &#039;06.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: Haha, I know it&#8217;s a business thing. As for design, I would have to talk to Rundle, but we could probably throw design in for a very nominal fee. Since I wouldn&#8217;t be doing the designs it&#8217;s hard for me to say yes or no, so let me get a response from him.</p>
<p>And you are right, ugly ads are so not in for the &#8217;06.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s got nothing to do with personal trust, bot everything to do with best practices in business -- but you know that.

Here&#039;s the next question - 

$1,200 for just posting to the site, or does that include design services as well?

I ask because there&#039;s some fugly banner ads out there. I can&#039;t imagine you being hip to trashing up your site to animated gifs and graphics generated by CorelDraw and their library of clipart.

I further can&#039;t imagine, however, you turning down a G because someone&#039;s got a great offer, but not so great skills in the banner ad design department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s got nothing to do with personal trust, bot everything to do with best practices in business &#8212; but you know that.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the next question &#8211; </p>
<p>$1,200 for just posting to the site, or does that include design services as well?</p>
<p>I ask because there&#8217;s some fugly banner ads out there. I can&#8217;t imagine you being hip to trashing up your site to animated gifs and graphics generated by CorelDraw and their library of clipart.</p>
<p>I further can&#8217;t imagine, however, you turning down a G because someone&#8217;s got a great offer, but not so great skills in the banner ad design department.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3069</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: From my understanding the discrepancies tend to be in unique visitor count and returning visitor count. Our server stats point to the site  receiving more, but we don&#039;t trust those as much. But if it&#039;s a trust issue (how can you not trust Scrivs) then I will find a way to provide another set of reports.

And this is for the graphical ads although text ads will be part of the testing down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: From my understanding the discrepancies tend to be in unique visitor count and returning visitor count. Our server stats point to the site  receiving more, but we don&#8217;t trust those as much. But if it&#8217;s a trust issue (how can you not trust Scrivs) then I will find a way to provide another set of reports.</p>
<p>And this is for the graphical ads although text ads will be part of the testing down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3068</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s $1,200 for the text-based ads, or the graphic banners? 

Also, a quick search on stat counter shows there might be some issues / counting being a bit inaccurate. Do you or would you provide a couple of different stats reports to potential buyers to verify your count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s $1,200 for the text-based ads, or the graphic banners? </p>
<p>Also, a quick search on stat counter shows there might be some issues / counting being a bit inaccurate. Do you or would you provide a couple of different stats reports to potential buyers to verify your count?</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3067</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger: I use StatCounter for my stats. Uses JS so numbers could be a tiny bit higher depending on how many people have JS disabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger: I use StatCounter for my stats. Uses JS so numbers could be a tiny bit higher depending on how many people have JS disabled.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.wisdump.com/whitespace/advertise-on-whitespace-for-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3066</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I needed money fast I would&#039;ve done this 6 months ago :-) Really these sponsors become the first &quot;guinea pigs&quot; for the ad network and helping us make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I needed money fast I would&#8217;ve done this 6 months ago :-) Really these sponsors become the first &#8220;guinea pigs&#8221; for the ad network and helping us make it better.</p>
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